The 37 Force..

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Logan Five

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Posted 1482475980 · Edited	Reply with quote #1

When it hits on # 37, it's amazing. Kreskin was doing this in his shows a long time ago. I think one can open a show with this and the audience member who thought of the number 37 can be brought up to the stage to do a follow-up effect with their help. One can also force two simple shapes, one inside the other. I once did this to Gerry Griffin at his California Magic shop, and he was stunned lol. Do you use these type of " forced mindreading " methods on participants, and what kind of reactions do you get ? For me it's hit or miss. When I hit, it's a thing of beauty. Best, __________________ " This proves that showmanship is what gets a man by, not his methods. " U.F Grant
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Jake07712

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Posted 1482489285	Reply with quote #2

I have opened my show with this along with 2 other pieces of business since the early 1960s. I use it as a 'test' to see who in the audience is most compatible with me. Still use it today. __________________ Jake
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magicfish

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Posted 1482491725	Reply with quote #3

I've been doing this since I was 12 or so years old and I still use it today. My new favourite use of it is for an impromptu card effect generously shared by Mr. Harry Lorayne here on the Forum.
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Harry Lorayne

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Posted 1482502079	Reply with quote #4

I also taught a use for the idea in The Himber Wallet Book (I think!)
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Paul Hallas

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Posted 1482505050 · Edited	Reply with quote #5

Years ago at a mentalists convention I was performing at in London I opened with a gag version of this. My instructions were not quite correct (on purpose) so the end number called out was 113. After looking crestfallen, I showed my prediction was correct, lol. It was a set up of course, perhaps the only time I ever used a stooge (something I don't believe in for lay audiences). __________________ Shop the Independent Bookstore \| Lulu
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EV!LD@N

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Posted 1482780679	Reply with quote #6

A lot of mentalists do open their shows with this. __________________ The Coin Board Book https://www.lybrary.com/the-coin-board-book-p-827955.html
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Craig Logan

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Posted 1484150620	Reply with quote #7

I've opened with something like this. Bob Cassidy talks about using macro-effects for the entire audience as an opening effect. I think it works better in a stage or larger group setting. If the premise fits, you are sensing who in the audience has a stronger connection. __________________ "A wizard is not to be made in a day." -Professor Hoffmann (Modern Magic)
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Craig Logan

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Posted 1523997352	Reply with quote #8

Resurrecting an old thread to ask the question; does anyone know of a credit to this psychological force or ones like it (68/86)? Any info would be wildly helpful. Thanks, Craig __________________ "A wizard is not to be made in a day." -Professor Hoffmann (Modern Magic)
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Harry Lorayne

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Posted 1523998714	Reply with quote #9

Go to JAW DROPPERS TWO - check out an item titled Eight To Fourteen to learn unbelievable uses for the forces mentioned here - with a borrowed deck of cards. (My opening line in that item: "I have the feeling that some will love this and that others will think 'Get outta' here!'") Since the book has been out and in many hands - I've learned that many "loved this."
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Michaelblue

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Posted 1524015020	Reply with quote #10

I open my shows with this, too. Just kidding, i dont do much in the way metalism
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Logan Five

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Posted 1524028139	Reply with quote #11

Quote: Originally Posted by mediocre_magic Resurrecting an old thread to ask the question; does anyone know of a credit to this psychological force or ones like it (68/86)? Any info would be wildly helpful. Thanks, Craig Maybe the Banachek book can give you a credit where this started. I know Kreskin was doing this in the 70's with his shows. Logan, __________________ " This proves that showmanship is what gets a man by, not his methods. " U.F Grant
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magicfish

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Posted 1524062355	Reply with quote #12

Quote: Originally Posted by Harry Lorayne Go to JAW DROPPERS TWO - check out an item titled Eight To Fourteen to learn unbelievable uses for the forces mentioned here - with a borrowed deck of cards. (My opening line in that item: "I have the feeling that some will love this and that others will think 'Get outta' here!'") Since the book has been out and in many hands - I've learned that many "loved this." I'm one of the ones who loves it. I do it the first way described with the 14. This is a really effective item and the "outs" don't seem likes "outs" in the least- it's a gem.
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